Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999
To: k-12sd@sysdyn.mit.edu
From: Lees Stuntz <stuntzln@tiac.net>
Subject: Latest CLExchange

Dear Listserve members,
The latest CLExchange is now available. The URL for the CLE page is

http://sysdyn.mit.edu/cle/.
Please tell me if there are any problems downloading it from the Web.
The following new documents have been added to the list of materials available from the CLE. They are also on the CLE website:
SYSTEMS EDUCATION
EXPERIEN Experiences in Developing Single-Discipline and Cross-Curricular Models for Classroom Use.
Ron Zaraza & Diana Fisher
>From CC-STADUS. The experiences of the CC-STADUS staff and participants in the CC-STADUS Project lead to recommendations and suggestions for model development and documentation, and training programs for teachers. Presented at the 1996 International System Dynamics Conference in Cambridge, MA. [Systems Education, Implementation, Elementary School, Middle School, High School,
K-Adult] (50¢)
HOWHIGHS Systems Thinking and System Dynamics in the CC-STADUS High School Project (How High School Students Become System Thinkers). Scott Guthrie & Diana Fisher
>From CC-STADUS. Science teacher Scott Guthrie and math teacher Diana Fisher discuss their individual
approaches teaching a year long course in system dynamics modeling. Presented at the 1996
International System Dynamics Conference in Cambridge, MA. [Systems Education, Implementation,
Cross Curricular , Middle School, High School, K-Adult] (50¢)
PIONEER1 What It's Like to Be a Pioneer: Let The Students Surprise You. Deb Lyneis
Prepared with the support of the Gordon Stanley Brown Fund. Jay Forrester has suggested that we could
speed the spread of learner-centered learning and system dynamics in K-12 education by sharing tales of
"what it's like to be a pioneer." It might help others who are starting out, or just curious, to know about
other teachers' experiences, positive student outcomes, pitfalls, political issues, responses of
administrators and fellow teachers, student and parent feedback, triumphs and tribulations. This paper
presents one such vignette. [Systems Education, Implementation, Elementary School, Middle School,
High School, K-Adult] (50¢)
PIONEER2 What It's Like to Be a Pioneer: Politics and the "Lazy Teacher". Debra Lyneis
Prepared with the support of the Gordon Stanley Brown Fund. Jay Forrester has suggested that we could
speed the spread of learner-centered learning and system dynamics in K-12 education by sharing tales of
"what it's like to be a pioneer." It might help others who are starting out, or just curious, to know about
other teachers' experiences, positive student outcomes, pitfalls, political issues, responses of
administrators and fellow teachers, student and parent feedback, triumphs and tribulations. This paper
presents one such vignette. [Systems Education, Implementation, Elementary School, Middle School,
High School, K-Adult] (50¢)
CROSS CURRICULAR
MAMMOTGS The Mammoth Extinction Game. Gene Stamell, A Ticotsky, R Quaden
Prepared with the support of the Gordon Stanley Brown Fund. In this interdisciplinary science, math, and
social studies lesson, third graders examine how the wooly mammoth became extinct about 11,000 years
ago. With a game and a hands-on model they learn about graphing, probability anda exponential decay in
math, and they are intorduced to system dynamics modeling as a useful tool for looking at problems.
[Cross Curricular, Math, Science, Social Studies, Dynamic Modeling, Elementary School, Middle School]
($1.00 paper only; $6.00 paper + model on disk)
NOMADSDL Nomads, Land Use, and Humanitarian Aid in the Sahel Region of Africa: A STELLA II Model for Use in the Classroom. Debbie Lindow, et al.
>From CC-STADUS, newly available on disk. Demonstrates historical analysis; explores humanitarian aid
and the destruction of a culture; includes extensive curriculum and background materials, extensions.
[Cross-Curricular, Social Studies, Dynamic Modeling, High School] ($3.00 paper only; $8.00 paper +
model on disk)
Best wishes,
Lees Stuntz
Lees N. Stuntz
Creative Learning Exchange Phone- 978-287-0070
1 Keefe Road Fax- 978-287-0080
Acton, MA 01720 e-mail- stuntzln@tiac.net
http://sysdyn.mit.edu/cle/

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From: "JOHN HEINBOKEL" <heinboke@Charity.trinityvt.edu>
Organization: Trinity College of Vermont
To: k-12sd@sysdyn.mit.edu
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999
Subject: Correction on Dates

CORRECTION! CORRECTION!
Our recent posting contained an incorrect date for the first
Graduate Certificate course. That message should be discarded and
the following correct information retained:
Final Reminder
Graduate Certificate Program in System Dynamics for Educators
----------------------------------
Waters Center for System Dynamics
Trinity College of VT
Burlington, VT 04501
(802) 846-7230 (voice)
(802) 846-7001 (fax)
wat-cent@charity.trinityvt.edu
This summer we will be initiating a 5-course Graduate Certificate
Program designed to provide a sequence of learning opportunities for
both classroom teachers and administrators to develop insights and
skills for using system dynamics to support the learning of their
students and their organizations. The first course, "Introduction to
Systems Thinking and Systems Tools," will be offered at Trinity
College during the week **19 July - 23 July 1999** (THIS is the
correct week). Subsequent courses will be offered
during Fall 1999 (via the web), Spring 2000 (via the web), Summer
2000 (at Trinity), and Academic Year 2000-2001 (via the web).
Details can be found at:
http://www.trinityvt.edu/waters/gradcred.htm
Inquiries are welcome and space is still available.
John F. Heinbokel
Director, Waters Center for System Dynamics
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john f heinbokel
natural sciences and mathematics department
director, waters center for system dynamics
trinity college of vt
208 colchester ave
burlington, vt 05401
(802) 846-7153 (nsm) or 846-7230 (system dynamics)
(802) 846-7001 (Fax)
heinboke@charity.trinityvt.edu

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Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999
To: k-12sd@sysdyn.mit.edu
From: Vanessa Colella <vanessa@media.mit.edu>
Subject: Announcing StarLogo for PCs!
The long wait is over! There is finally a version of StarLogo for PCs!
This new version, tentatively called Java StarLogo, has been re-implemented
from scratch in Java. Ultimately, this version should run on all platforms
(PCs, UNIX, and Macs). But for now, we are recommending it only for PCs.
You can now download a beta version of Java StarLogo from the StarLogo Web
site (http://www.media.mit.edu/starlogo). Java StarLogo has some
significant differences from earlier versions of StarLogo. See the Web site
for more information.
We look forward to hearing your comments and suggestions!
-- The StarLogo Development Team

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From: dsmith@lasalle.edu
To: "k-12sd" <k-12sd@sysdyn.mit.edu>
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999
Subject: Introduction

Nan asked me to take a few lines to introduce myself. I am co-Director of
La Salle University's Institute for the Advancement of Mathematics and
Science Teaching (named by committee, can you tell?) and Associate
Professor of Geology and Environmental Science. I have joined this list
because I have just received funding from Pennsylvania to begin a project
to train preservice K-8 teachers to do modeling and then to have those
college students do modeling projects with middle school students. (
http://www.lasalle.edu/academ/iamst/e-sist.htm). We will begin this summer
by training the faculty who run the preservice science courses and the
partnering middle school teachers, and developing the curriculum we will
use with the students. In the fall, we will teach the college students
modeling in an integrated science course that all K-8 preservice teachers
must take. In the spring, those students, in the second semester of the
course, will conduct modeling projects with middle school students here is
Philadelphia and in a suburban district. In addition to time-domain
modeling with Stella, we will be doing spatial analysis and modeling with
the ArcView Geographic Information System. The projects will likely be
focused on the local environment (streams, etc).
Personally, I am interested not only in geologic and other natural systems,
but also in the social systems that promote or inhibit improvement in
education. I'm certainly getting plenty of firsthand knowledge of the
latter.
Dave Smith (dsmith@lasalle.edu)

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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999
To: k-12sd@SYSDYN.MIT.EDU (K-12sd discussion)
From: "Jay W. Forrester" <jforestr@MIT.EDU>
Subject: 1999-2000 Guided Study Program in System Dynamics

The System Dynamics in Education Project at MIT is now accepting
applications for the 1999-2000 Guided Study Program in System Dynamics.
The Guided Study Program (GSP) is conducted by the System Dynamics in
Education Project (SDEP) in the System Dynamics Group of the Sloan School
at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. The Program is suitable for
any person who wants to acquire a strong foundation in the theory of system
dynamics as well as model building skills. The GSP will begin its third
year in September 1999. Fourteen people enrolled in the first 1997-98
session, and thirty in the 1998-99 session.
The Guided Study Program is organized around the "Road Maps" series (a
series of chapters on system dynamics which can be found online at
<http://sysdyn.mit.edu>) and some of the "classics" in system dynamics
literature. Weekly (and occasionally biweekly) assignments include readings
from papers in Road Maps, exercises based on those papers, additional
questions on the topics of study, readings from the classic system dynamics
literature, and modeling exercises. Participants will receive comprehensive
general solutions to the assignments as well as detailed feedback,
corrections and suggestions on their individual answers.
Progress of participants is monitored by a team composed of MIT
undergraduates with experience working for the System Dynamics in Education
Project. Members of the team, the GSP tutors, are authors of many of the
papers in Road Maps. Professor Forrester, as the head of the program
overlooks the work of the tutors. Each week the team reports back to the
System Dynamics in Education Project group meeting with Professor Forrester
to relate progress of participants and discuss questions that arise.
Material covered will be similar to the past years, but experience gained
in prior years will serve to improve this year's Program. Participants can
reach tutors individually through e-mail and get feedback on questions and
concerns.
The next Guided Study Program in System Dynamics will begin in early
September 1999 and run through May 2000. Participants must possess a
computer and have access to the Internet, and be willing to devote at least
fifteen hours per week to the Program. To cover the costs, each participant
will be expected to pay US$5,000. in advance. Applications will be taken in
the order of submission, excepting our right to decide that the Program may
not be appropriate for some applicants. The Program will also admit a few
full-time K-12 teachers and school administrators for a much smaller fee of
US$500. The participants must also purchase books totaling about $350.
Past GSP participants have found the Program to be a rewarding and
educational experience. Anyone who is interested in participating in the
1999 Guided Study Program in System Dynamics should contact us before
August 1st at:
gsp-info@sysdyn.mit.edu.
Please include some personal background, describe your present work and why
you are interested in this program (about one page).
Additional information can also be found at
<http://sysdyn.mit.edu/DistanceLearning>. This web page contains:
- The paper about the GSP presented at the International System Dynamics
Society Conference in Quebec City, July 1998
- Quotes from participants about the GSP
- Sample assignment (assignment 7 of 30)
- Sample solutions (general solutions to assignment 7)
 
---------------------------------------------------------
Jay W. Forrester
Professor of Management, Emeritus
and Senior Lecturer, Sloan School
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Room E60-389
Cambridge, MA 02139
tel: 617-253-1571
fax: 617-258-9405
Home office:
tel: 978-369-9372
fax: 978-369-9077

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From: "Blumentals, Alejandro" <Alejandro_Blumentals@ATKEARNEY.com>
To: "'k-12sd@sysdyn.mit.edu'" <k-12sd@sysdyn.mit.edu>
Subject:Introduction
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999
Hello, let me introduce myself as a new member of the K-12 discussion group.
My name is Alejandro Blumentals, I am from Caracas, Venezuela, of Latvian
ascendance, currently living in Sao Paulo, Brazil, on assignment in Munich,
Germany. For most of my professional life I have been a business consultant
and lately spending lots of time around the world - this is now for 16
years. During this time I have done many things in most business areas
-finance,logistics, etc., used different "fads", seen the results,
reactions, emotions and evolutions in many businesses small and large; I
have worked with small consultancies, as an independent and with large
consultancies (current).
Recently I have become very interested in Organizations as structures and
its processes. In a broader sense I am curious about structures in life in
general. I got interested in SD reading on learning organizations (Senge, de
Geus, Argyris, etc. as well as the court of "n" steps gurus). I have also
recently read some of John Sterman's work.
At present I must admit that I am pretty ignorant of how SD works.
Particularly at the micro level I find little disposition in our
client-consulting work teams to test the limits of inner held models.
Neither I see much disposition to even surface models to discuss them. In
this situation, since I believe this a very necessary process in any
learning, I am very interested to learn worldly perspectives. Finding this
site has been very gratifying because it gives me the opportunity to discuss
related ideas, and in a very mobile environment such as mine, a good
chatting place is a second home.
Thanks for your welcome
Alejandro

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999
From: Peter Thebus <Peter.Thebus@Student.Uni-Magdeburg.DE>
To: k-12sd@sysdyn.mit.edu
Subject: system dynamics computer model

Hello,
My name is Peter Thebus and I am a student at the University in Magdeburg
/ Germany. At the moment I want to write my master theses about system
dynamics. My goal is to examine a model and test some new ideas to
optimize and adjust the model.
That's why I look now for a ready computer simulated model with
documentation. The model should be not too small and should not have to
much uncertain variables. It can be from any scientific field.
If somebody can help me please write me.
Greetings Peter Thebus
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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999
From: Niall Palfreyman <Niall.Palfreyman@assyst-intl.com>
To: k-12sd <k-12sd@sysdyn.mit.edu>
Cc: niall@assyst1.assyst-intl.com
Subject: Introducing learning in an organisation

Hi,
I have a decision to make, and I'd like to ask you all for help. I'm
aware that it doesn't relate directly to K-12 education, but it does
relate to the role of education amongst staff of any institution.
I work for a smallish software company. As a project leader I probably
count as something like middle-management - nothing very high up. We've
had a very high turnover rate in the company over the past two years,
and from speaking with people who have left, I get the impression that
it is largely as a result of an atmosphere of fear, stress and lack of
confidence in the company. I recently made the suggestion that I stage a
series of experiential workshops (1/2 day per month for 12 months) to
explore communication within and between teams. I would invite three
interested workteams to attend - about 15-20 people, and we would look
at the in's and out's of interpersonal communication, system dynamics
and organisational learning. I should maybe say that I have some
background in adult education and in holding workshops on interpersonal
issues.
Well, on Tuesday I received a phone call from the managing director of
our company and then spent 3/4 of an hour talking with him in his
office. I can only describe the conversation as something I understood
as a personal attack on my motivations and on my beliefs concerning
learning. Whether the conversation was intended that way from his side,
I'm unsure, but that is certainly the way it felt to me - I came out of
his office shaking all over. His main concern seemed to be that I was
criticising his running of the company. We also had some conversational
difficulty because whenever I tried to express ways in which the
workshops might improve performance in the company, he interpreted this
as meaning that there was a problem, to which he wanted to know the
cause. I know of no causes - I only know that I'd like to come to a
workplace in which people are happy in their work.
THEN, on Wednesday the managing director sent out his quarterly report
to the employees, in which he amongst other things mentioned my idea of
the workshops and said that management supports the idea as something to
be done by employees using company premises, but in their own time.
My dilemma is this: do I start making preparations for the workshops and
looking for interested attendees, or not? My impression is that the
managing director is personally against the whole idea, and my first
reaction to that is that if I really believe in what I'm doing then I
should go ahead and hope I can improve the working lives of employees in
some areas of the company. Maybe I can also along the way engender the
idea of organisational learning in the company. On the other hand, can I
succeed if he IS totally against it? Might I be setting attendees up for
a programmed collision with upper management sometime in the future? I'm
also unsure how to understand his reactions - that he is against the
idea is my impression from his actions, but his words say that he
supports the idea. What should I do? Help!
Confusedly,
Niall.
--
We have only the world that we can bring forth
with others, and only love helps us bring it forth.
Dr. Niall Palfreyman mailto:Niall.Palfreyman@assyst-intl.com
assyst GmbH, Henschelring 15a
85551 Kirchheim bei Muenchen Tel: ++49-89-90505-230
Germany. Fax: ++49-89-90505-102/3

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From: EVScott7@aol.com
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999
Subject: Re: Introducing learning in an organisation
To: k-12sd@sysdyn.mit.edu

No. Do not go ahead. The one person who must be supportive of your project
is the head of the organization. Without his/her overt, unqualified
support, nothing you do will be okay. In any system, the head must be
informed and in alignment with the activities of the rest of the system parts
or they cannot succeed on their own.
The work of Dr. Edwards Deming is superb in this area. If you are not
familiar with his work and those who have been part of the revolution in
management, I would be happy to put respond further with more resources.
Otherwise,you may find his website of use:
http:/deming.ces.clemson.edu/pub/den/ltrs_jerus2.pdf
Elane V. Scott
Education Communications Consultant
11044 Theis Avenue
Whittier, CA 90604
(Voice) (562) 944.9158
email- evscott7@aol.com

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999
To: "k-12sd" <k-12sd@sysdyn.mit.edu>
From: teresa@northwest.com
Subject: Re: Introducing learning in an organisation

The hardest thing about this whole ST/SD endeavor is convincing people that
it is a good thing, that it is useful and that it can definitely improve
peoples' thinking which not only enhances our kids learning in K-12
education but also the innerworkings of a business. It seems that people
who truly believe in this have to be pioneers and take risks, some of these
being political. Perhaps your manager feels threatened by what you know
and can do for your company.
I am a high school teacher and am currently changing jobs mostly because
the people I work with are not willing to change. I tried to make some
inroads with ST without the computer support to do much with SD but I will
say that the students I was able to introduce to the ideas came away
considering issues in a different way. I think that what I was really
trying to promote paralleled the quote on our SymBowl (Portland,OR student
modeling competition) T-shirts that we gave to the participants...."You
can't memorize understanding." Perhaps that threatened traditional teachers
plus the fact that they are way behind in the use of technology in any way
in their classrooms. I am sharing this experience with you just to let you
know that you are definitely not alone in fighting the inertia.
Teresa Hazel

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From: KCStarguy@aol.com
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999
Subject: Re: Introducing learning in an organisation
To: k-12sd@sysdyn.mit.edu

Nial
If it works he will take credit and if it doesn't or something goes wrong you
will get the blame. YOu can't win. I would find one or two people to develop
these ideas on the side and use it for you and them. But he may think that is
collusion. If you want to do it, I would do it as a side project and don't
inform him of anything. If he asks tell. Does not sound like a nice place to
work for.
Eric Flescher, Ed.D (KCStarguy@aol.com)
Coordinator, Project S.I.M. (Simulations, Interdisciplinary internet and
Metacognitive activities)
Simulation Station website - http: //members.aol.com/kcstarguy/sim/
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To: k-12sd <k-12sd@sysdyn.mit.edu>
From: Linda Booth Sweeney <Linda_Booth_Sweeney@harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: Introducing learning in an organisation
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999
Niall,
I think you are wise to be cautious if the company head appears to be
dramatically opposed to the workshops you suggest. Not an auspicious
beginning. From what I've observed, organizational learning efforts that do
not have the support of upper management tend to wither and die (not
prettily) on the vine, often taking the initiator along into the mulching
pile.
Perhaps you can try a pilot or two, rather than launching an organization
wide effort. Ideally, this pilot would include several participants whom
the company head particularly respects or listens to. Let them be the
ambassadors for you.
One caveat: communicate as much as possible about what you are doing and
try to watch out for "clique dynamics", e.g. talking a different language
from the rest of the company, being perceived as exclusive.
a few thoughts...
My best,
Linda Booth Sweeney
Linda Booth Sweeney
Harvard Graduate School of Education
18 Fernald Drive #22
Cambridge, MA 02138
617-354-1390
e-mail: Linda_Booth_Sweeney@harvard.edu

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From: Lynne <lynne@csnet.net>
To: "'k-12sd'" <k-12sd@sysdyn.mit.edu>
Subject: RE: Introducing learning in an organisation
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999

(Niall)
What does your immediate supervisor have to say? I think you need to work
through the accepted hierarchy/accountability structure or it may backfire.
But start preparing yourself for the workshop in case you don't get much
advance notice.
Lynne Bernstein
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999
From: Niall Palfreyman <Niall.Palfreyman@assyst-intl.com>
To: k-12sd <k-12sd@sysdyn.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: system dynamics computer model
Peter Thebus wrote:
> That's why I look now for a ready computer simulated model with
> documentation.
Hi Peter,
I don't know which sciences particularly interest you, but if biological
or economic models are your thing, then you might try looking at the
Springer series on dynamic modelling. In particular the book "Modeling
Dynamic Biological Systems" by Hannon and Ruth is a good collection of
biological and ecological models together with discussions. The German
Amazon URL for this book is:
http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/0387948503/qid%3D929343404/028-8774653-332
2849
Note:
a. This URL might have got broken, and need repasting.
b. Hannon and Ruth are bringing out a new, updated edition of this book
in July. If you're interested you can order it direct from the German
Springer office under the telephone number (+49-)030-82787330.
Hope this helps,
Niall.
--
We have only the world that we can bring forth
with others, and only love helps us bring it forth.
Dr. Niall Palfreyman mailto:Niall.Palfreyman@assyst-intl.com
assyst GmbH, Henschelring 15a
85551 Kirchheim bei Muenchen Tel: ++49-89-90505-230
Germany. Fax: ++49-89-90505-102/3

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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999
From: Niall Palfreyman <Niall.Palfreyman@assyst-intl.com>
To: k-12sd@sysdyn.mit.edu
Cc: dsmith@lasalle.edu, Alejandro_Blumentals@ATKEARNEY.com, iwp@hinet.net.au,
martens@pc.jaring.my, fnickols@ets.org, dbarcan@cpcs.chtr.k12.ma.us,
EVScott7@aol.com, teresa@northwest.com, KCStarguy@aol.com,
Linda_Booth_Sweeney@harvard.edu, lynne@csnet.net, fritz@cebinet.com.br,
sjpecsenye@accesstoledo.com, niall@assyst1.assyst-intl.com
Subject: Re: Introducing Learning in An Organization

Hi.
I'm back from a business trip last week, and I'm overwhelmed at the
feedback I've received from everyone on this issue. Thank you all very,
very much. Below, I've tried to condense the responses as best I can
down to the remarks which I found most helpful in each, in an attempt to
clarify my own thinking. I'm sending the result to the K-12 list in case
these thoughts are useful to anyone else. They certainly were to me!
-------------------------------------------------------
Dave Smith: What assumptions is your manager operating from?
Alejandro Blumentals: He may be merely tactless.
Ian Parker: Not everyone wants to change or improve.
Hans Martens: [Testing your thinking] might be all you get from the
experiment.
Fred Nickols: Why are you so bent on fixing things?
Dan Barcan: Run the workshops.
Elane Scott: No. Do not go ahead.
Teresa Hazel: You are definitely not alone in fighting the inertia.
Eric Flescher: If it works he will take credit and if it doesn't or
something goes wrong you will get the blame. YOu can't win.
Linda Booth Sweeney: Organizational learning efforts that do not have
the support of upper management tend to wither and die ..., often taking
the initiator along ... Watch out for "clique dynamics".
Lynne Bernstein: What does your immediate supervisor have to say?
Fritz Wilhelm: Ich stehe Dir zur Seite
Steve Pecsenye: The handwriting is on the wall. You now know why the
others left. You can prepare your resume now... I would be astonished if
things go on at work as they seemed to be before Niall spoke up.
-------------------------------------------------------
OK - my thoughts.
I think I've come more or less round to thinking that I don't need to
know exactly whether the CEO is "actually" in favour of the pilot
workshops or not. I know that I have widespread (though possibly
tenuous) backing from both management and employees, so that is less of
a problem.
What is more important is the aggressive nature of his language during
our conversation in reference to both me and the workshops, and also the
fact that the workshops would be scheduled in employees' free time. To
me these two aspects, when taken together, indicate a fundamental
conflict of interests and motivation between him and myself. And if I
held the workshops then I would be not only heading for a sure-fire
collision with him, but would also be leading a group of attendees into
that same collision. I don't think either would be ethical.
I'm still feeling a little shaken by the events of the past two weeks,
so I'll need to wait a little longer to see how I feel when my head has
cleared, but at present I've arrived at the following provisional
conclusions:
1. I don't think I should hold the workshops.
2. Much of my reason for staying with this company disappears if I don't
hold them.
3. If I want to build up experience in giving teamworking workshops,
then I can do it in the local community.
 
So - anyone offering a job in the Munich area? :-)
Thanks once again to everyone for your advice and support.
Very best wishes,
Niall.
--
We have only the world that we can bring forth
with others, and only love helps us bring it forth.
Dr. Niall Palfreyman mailto:Niall.Palfreyman@assyst-intl.com
assyst GmbH, Henschelring 15a
85551 Kirchheim bei Muenchen Tel: ++49-89-90505-230
Germany. Fax: ++49-89-90505-102/3

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(Moderator's note: The web site below is multilingual.)

Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999
From: antonio barron <antonio.barron@telefonica.es>
To: k-12sd@sysdyn.mit.edu, system-dynamics@world.std.com
Subject: To share models trhough Internet

\
Hi all
If you are interested to know more about the models, shared through
Internet, perhaps,... find useful reports in the link :
http://ikt97.grm.hia.no/it6401/
Best regards
Antonio

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From: "Savage, Michelle" <MSavage@saisd.net>
To: "'k-12sd@sysdyn.mit.edu'" <k-12sd@sysdyn.mit.edu>
Subject: Greetings
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999

Greetings from the Sidney Lanier Magnet School of International Banking and
Business in San Antonio, Texas. I am the coordinator for this small school
within a school magnet. We are in the infant stages of using systems
dynamics in the classroom. Ten of sixteen teachers have had extensive
training. Hopefully, this year we will be able to implement our learning in
the classroom. I look forward to the wisdom of others! Have a great week.
Michelle Savage

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